Comments on: Chess problem 2008-01-16 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/ Fri, 16 May 2008 02:51:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: John http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-163 John Thu, 24 Jan 2008 02:06:45 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-163 yea sorry about that, I was wrong I only looked at it after I got home Tuesday night for like no more than ten minutes. when I went to bed I couldn't stop thinking about it and then I came to me that I forgot that Qxe7 or not so much that I forgot but that I didn't factor that in. And the next day in the morning wile I was taking a shower I found myself thinking about it again and then an understanding of Jeffrey’s chess notation came to me and I realized then that he was right. yea sorry about that, I was wrong I only looked at it after I got home Tuesday night for like no more than ten minutes. when I went to bed I couldn’t stop thinking about it and then I came to me that I forgot that Qxe7 or not so much that I forgot but that I didn’t factor that in. And the next day in the morning wile I was taking a shower I found myself thinking about it again and then an understanding of Jeffrey’s chess notation came to me and I realized then that he was right.

]]> By: bicyclethief http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-162 bicyclethief Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:57:56 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-162 No, Jeffrey looks right. (He ought to be-- he posted the puzzle.) After 1.e7 Qxe7, I don't see a mate for White in one anywhere. No, Jeffrey looks right. (He ought to be– he posted the puzzle.)

After 1.e7 Qxe7, I don’t see a mate for White in one anywhere.

]]> By: John http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-161 John Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:21:46 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-161 ummm I'm sorry but I'm not sure what the heck your chess notation is there ~Jeffrey~ I don't understand it (if I'm reading it right, that’s no where near the right answer. so I'm going to assume that I must not be reading it right) The answer and only answer as I see it is - Pawn from E6 to E7 to start it off - then depending on what black does next, then white moves to mate regardless of any move that black does. This is the only way for white to mate in two moves. ummm I’m sorry but I’m not sure what the heck your chess notation is there ~Jeffrey~ I don’t understand it (if I’m reading it right, that’s no where near the right answer. so I’m going to assume that I must not be reading it right) The answer and only answer as I see it is - Pawn from E6 to E7 to start it off - then depending on what black does next, then white moves to mate regardless of any move that black does. This is the only way for white to mate in two moves.

]]> By: Jeffrey http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-160 Jeffrey Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:33:51 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-160 <p>Good try, Boris, but 1. Kf3 or 1. Kf1 is met by 1...Qf7!, pinning the White queen to the king and defending against 2. Nc7#. Sorry to hear about your frustration, bicyclethief!</p><p>Ok, here's the solution:</p><p>1.Kh1! (zugzwang)</p><p>1...Bxd4 2.e4#<br />1...Bd6 2.Qf3#<br />1...Be7 2.Nc7#<br />1...gxh5, Bxe6, Nxe6 2.Bf3#<br />1...Q~ rank, Qe5 2.Q(x)e5#<br />1...Q~ SW-NE, Qc7, Bf7, Sd7 2. N(x)c7#<br />1...Qxh6 2. Nc7,Qe5#</p><p>This problem was by Comins Mansfield, Wilhelm Massmann, Lev Loshinsky. It won 3rd Prize, <em>Problem</em>, 1959.</p><p>If it were Black to play, all of his moves would be met with immediate mate, so all White has to do is find a waiting move. The only white piece that plays no part in any of the mates is the white king so that is an obvious candidate to make the key. However, unless White chooses accurately, the position of the white king after the key will enable Black to pin the potential mating piece to the white king.</p> Good try, Boris, but 1. Kf3 or 1. Kf1 is met by 1…Qf7!, pinning the White queen to the king and defending against 2. Nc7#. Sorry to hear about your frustration, bicyclethief!

Ok, here's the solution:

1.Kh1! (zugzwang)

1…Bxd4 2.e4#
1…Bd6 2.Qf3#
1…Be7 2.Nc7#
1…gxh5, Bxe6, Nxe6 2.Bf3#
1…Q~ rank, Qe5 2.Q(x)e5#
1…Q~ SW-NE, Qc7, Bf7, Sd7 2. N(x)c7#
1…Qxh6 2. Nc7,Qe5#

This problem was by Comins Mansfield, Wilhelm Massmann, Lev Loshinsky. It won 3rd Prize, Problem, 1959.

If it were Black to play, all of his moves would be met with immediate mate, so all White has to do is find a waiting move. The only white piece that plays no part in any of the mates is the white king so that is an obvious candidate to make the key. However, unless White chooses accurately, the position of the white king after the key will enable Black to pin the potential mating piece to the white king.

]]> By: Boris Izrayelit http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-159 Boris Izrayelit Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:29:17 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-159 tricky. had fritz help to solve. so not claiming the beer, but it is doable. tricky.

had fritz help to solve. so not claiming the beer, but it is doable.

]]> By: Boris Izrayelit http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-158 Boris Izrayelit Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:40:34 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-158 oh yeah, you're right. forgot about opening up that diagonal. oh yeah, you’re right. forgot about opening up that diagonal.

]]> By: bicyclethief http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-157 bicyclethief Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:10:26 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-157 1.Kf3 Bxe6 (for example) 2.Qe4 Kd6, getting away. 1.Kf3 Bxe6 (for example)
2.Qe4 Kd6, getting away.

]]> By: Boris Izrayelit http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-156 Boris Izrayelit Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:41:58 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-156 or 1. ... Qe5 2. QxQ or
1. … Qe5
2. QxQ

]]> By: Boris Izrayelit http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-155 Boris Izrayelit Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:41:11 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-155 Is it just me or is it 1. Kf3, then any black move and white mates Qe4. Unless 1. ... Qxd4 2. Knc7# Is it just me or is it

1. Kf3, then any black move and white mates Qe4.
Unless
1. … Qxd4
2. Knc7#

]]> By: bicyclethief http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-154 bicyclethief Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:27:06 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/2008/01/16/chess-problem-2008-01-16/#comment-154 Something must be wrong because this puzzle is making me feel inadequate. Something must be wrong because this puzzle is making me feel inadequate.

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