Comments on: The Bg4 From's Gambit: Marshall variation http://greenpointchess.org/2008/08/24/the-bg4-froms-gambit-marshall-variation/ Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:38:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jeffrey http://greenpointchess.org/2008/08/24/the-bg4-froms-gambit-marshall-variation/comment-page-1/#comment-363 Jeffrey Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:34:53 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/?p=356#comment-363 <p>Thanks for the insight, Aaro!</p> Thanks for the insight, Aaro!

]]> By: Aaro Jalas http://greenpointchess.org/2008/08/24/the-bg4-froms-gambit-marshall-variation/comment-page-1/#comment-356 Aaro Jalas Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:59:10 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/?p=356#comment-356 Greetings! I think that 4.-Bg4 is a good alternative for Black: it is natural development move and much less charted than the alternatives 4.-g5 and 4.-Nf6. The best analysis which I have found can be located at french Bird-site: http://ouverturebird.free.fr/fichetechnique10.php here are some possibilities: a) 5.g3 Qe7 6.Bg2 Nc6 7.d4 0-0-0 8.c3 is unclear, after 5.g3 Black can also try to attack directly with 5.-h5!? here is a quick knock-out with that move: 5.-h5 6.Bg2 7.c3 h4 8.Nxh4 Rxh4! 9.gxh4 Qxh4+ 10.Kf1 Qf6+ 11.Ke1 0-0-0 12.Qb3 Re8 13.e3 Qh4+ 14.Kf1 Re6 and White resigned in the game Zeh - Elm, Germany 1963. b) 5.e3 Nf6 6.d4 0-0 7.Be2 Ne4 8.Nbd2 with "clear plus for White", but I think that 6.-0-0 is better than allowing 6.-Nc6 7.Bb5! c) 5.e4 Qe7! 6.Qe2 Nc6 7.c3 Nf6 8.d3 0-0-0 9.Bg5 Rhe8 10.Nbd2 h6 11.Bh4? (11.Bxf6) 11.- Qe6 12.h3 g5 13.Bf2 Bh5 14.g4 Bg6 15.Kd1 Bf4 16.Kc2 Rxd3!! 17.Qxd3 Nxe4 18.Nxe4 Bxe4 19.Re1 Nb4+ and White resigned in the correspondence game Zastrow - Löchner (Thematurnier 1961/1962) because of 20.cxb4 Qc4+ . The 5.e4 could be considered as White´s best try against 4.-Bg4, but as the game above shows, there are some difficulties for White. As a general rule I have learned that if You play in From´s Gambit the move Bg5 to pin the Black Knight at f6, then after -h6 You should exchange with Bxf6 instead of retreating with Bh4. A. Jalas Greetings!
I think that 4.-Bg4 is a good alternative for Black: it is natural development move and much less charted than the alternatives 4.-g5 and 4.-Nf6. The best analysis which I have found can be located at french Bird-site: http://ouverturebird.free.fr/fichetechnique10.php

here are some possibilities:

a) 5.g3 Qe7 6.Bg2 Nc6 7.d4 0-0-0 8.c3 is unclear, after 5.g3 Black can also try to attack directly with 5.-h5!?
here is a quick knock-out with that move:
5.-h5 6.Bg2 7.c3 h4 8.Nxh4 Rxh4! 9.gxh4 Qxh4+ 10.Kf1 Qf6+ 11.Ke1 0-0-0 12.Qb3 Re8 13.e3 Qh4+ 14.Kf1 Re6 and White resigned in the game Zeh – Elm, Germany 1963.

b) 5.e3 Nf6 6.d4 0-0 7.Be2 Ne4 8.Nbd2 with “clear plus for White”, but I think that 6.-0-0 is better than allowing 6.-Nc6 7.Bb5!

c) 5.e4 Qe7! 6.Qe2 Nc6 7.c3 Nf6 8.d3 0-0-0 9.Bg5 Rhe8
10.Nbd2 h6 11.Bh4? (11.Bxf6) 11.- Qe6 12.h3 g5 13.Bf2 Bh5 14.g4 Bg6 15.Kd1 Bf4 16.Kc2 Rxd3!! 17.Qxd3 Nxe4 18.Nxe4 Bxe4 19.Re1 Nb4+ and White resigned in the correspondence game Zastrow – Löchner (Thematurnier 1961/1962) because of 20.cxb4 Qc4+ .

The 5.e4 could be considered as White´s best try against 4.-Bg4, but as the game above shows, there are some difficulties for White. As a general rule I have learned that if You play in From´s Gambit the move Bg5 to pin the Black Knight at f6, then after -h6 You should exchange with Bxf6 instead of retreating with Bh4.

A. Jalas

]]> By: Jeffrey http://greenpointchess.org/2008/08/24/the-bg4-froms-gambit-marshall-variation/comment-page-1/#comment-327 Jeffrey Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:53:30 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/?p=356#comment-327 <p>Good point re contacting Timothy Taylor and explanations of the Lasker and Mestel variations. I started talking about the Lasker varation in <a href="http://greenpointchess.org/2008/08/23/froms-gambit/" rel="nofollow">this post</a>, but haven't addressed the Mestel yet.</p> Good point re contacting Timothy Taylor and explanations of the Lasker and Mestel variations. I started talking about the Lasker varation in this post, but haven't addressed the Mestel yet.

]]> By: Greg Keener http://greenpointchess.org/2008/08/24/the-bg4-froms-gambit-marshall-variation/comment-page-1/#comment-325 Greg Keener Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:56:46 +0000 http://greenpointchess.org/?p=356#comment-325 we should contact timothy taylor and ask his opinion of this move. Nice post- do we have explanations of the lasker and mestel variations in our other From's posts? if not- we should post that material and give a complete view of From's. we should contact timothy taylor and ask his opinion of this move. Nice post- do we have explanations of the lasker and mestel variations in our other From’s posts? if not- we should post that material and give a complete view of From’s.

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